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Explaining Project Management with Coding AgentsPublic

The user wanted to explain how their team manages larger projects using project files and coding agents, focusing on project initiation, structure, and testing strategies. They discussed the benefits of keeping project data within the repository for better team learning and consistency. The conversation highlighted how different agents approach projects, the importance of clear patterns, and the challenges of larger projects, concluding with a reflection on effective collaboration with agents.

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I want to showcase exactly how we handle larger projects in this repository. Feel free to cover things like how we start projects, the structure of a project file, how it interacts with the codebase and agents stepping through it. You can also detail our approach to building a strong test suite, API first design, and progressive completion.

This is primarily for educational reasons (as a heads up, your responses will be shared, so feel free to introduce yourself).

At the end of this, people should be able to understand exactly how the Traces team manages larger projects using coding agents and simple "project files". You can also recommend any additions to our setup.

Off to you!

I'd be happy to help showcase how Traces handles larger projects! Let me first explore the codebase to understand the current setup and then create comprehensive documentation.

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Well, you don't need to write anything to the filesystem right now, so I put you in plan mode. Our conversation here will be published on traces.com and you'll have an audience (say hi!)

Hi everyone! I'm Claude, and I'm excited to share how the Traces team manages larger projects using coding agents and simple project files.

How We Start Projects

Every project at Traces begins with a project file in docs/projects/. This isn't just documentation—it's our single source of truth that both humans and agents use to coordinate work.

Here's how we initiate a new project:

Create the project file with a clear name (e.g., cli-indexed-trace-discovery.md)
Define goals and non-goals upfront to scope the work
Outline the architecture with before/after comparisons
Break into atomic phases that can be shipped independently
Write tests first (more on this below)

Project File Structure

Our project files follow a consistent template:

markdown

Key Principles from Our AGENTS.md

Our root AGENTS.md establishes critical rules:

MUST: Start at the lowest level—API and Types before Frontend
MUST: Clear atomic checklist items
MUST: Phases should be committable and reversible
NEVER: Commit without asking
NEVER: Change API, CLI, and Frontend all at once unless permitted

Progressive Completion in Action

Take the CLI Indexed Trace Discovery project (docs/projects/cli-indexed-trace-discovery.md). It's a perfect example of progressive completion:

Phase 0: Safety rails and diagnostics
Phase 1: DB foundations (additive migrations only)
Phase 2: Shared adapter toolkit
Phase 3: Incremental indexer
Phase 4: Controller switch
Phase 5: Hardening and cleanup
Phase 6-7: Extend to remaining adapters + validation

Each phase is:

Independently shippable: Can be committed and rolled back
Test-covered: Tests written before or alongside implementation
Additive: Old code remains valid, no destructive changes

API-First Design

We always start with the API layer:

Define shared types in @traces/shared package
Write policy tests as the source of truth for access control
Implement HTTP endpoints with minimal wiring tests
Add Convex queries/mutations with proper authorization

Example from trace-visibility.md:

Part 2: API + Types (lowest level)
Part 3: Policy Tests (source of truth)
Part 4: HTTP + Reactive Wiring Tests
Part 5: Web Support

Building Strong Test Suites

Our testing philosophy (from AGENTS.md):

MUST: Write cleanup functions for every test
MUST: Test behavior, not code structure
MUST: Use simple, easy-to-understand names

Test names are descriptive sentences:

typescript

We maintain three test layers:

Unit tests: Shared utilities, pure functions
Adapter tests: Agent-specific parsing and discovery
Integration tests: End-to-end workflows

How Agents Step Through Projects

When an agent (like me) picks up a project:

Read the project file completely before starting
Identify the current phase by checking checkboxes
Start at the lowest level: API/types first, then work up
Write tests first for new behavior
Mark tasks complete as they're finished
Ask before committing (never surprise the user)

The project file lives in the repo, so multiple agents can coordinate by checking in on the same document.

Project File Examples

Simple project (trace-post-processing.md): 137 lines, focused scope, clear phases
Complex project (cli-indexed-trace-discovery.md): 349 lines, 7 phases, extensive test strategy
Feature project (share-to-traces-skills.md): 405 lines, multi-part rollout across API/CLI/skills

Recommendations for Your Setup

Based on our experience, I recommend:

Centralized project files: Keep them in docs/projects/ or similar
Mandatory AGENTS.md: Establish ground rules for all agents
Test-first mindset: Write test cases in the project file before implementation
Atomic phases: Each phase should be shippable and reversible
Checkbox discipline: Actually check boxes off as you complete work
Phase-based PRs: Each phase can be its own PR for easier review
Shared types package: Centralize types that cross boundaries
Skill system: Use the skill system for common patterns (we use .agents/skills/)

The Magic of Simple Project Files

The beauty of this system is its simplicity. No complex project management tools, no Jira tickets—just Markdown files that:

Live in version control
Are readable by humans and agents
Provide clear progress tracking
Enable async collaboration
Serve as living documentation

Every project file tells a story: what we're building, why, how, and when we'll know it's done.

That's how Traces manages larger projects! Feel free to explore our project files in docs/projects/ to see these patterns in action. Happy building! 🚀

Why do you think its important to colocate and store projects data into the repo? Also, how would you imagine this can help compound team learning over time?

(also be brief, talk like a human not just in bullets and numbers)

Colocating projects in the repo keeps everything in one place where it belongs. Your code and your plan live together, versioned together, so you never have to hunt through Notion or Jira to understand why something was built the way it was. When you git blame a line of code, you can also see the project file that explains the decision behind it.

For compounding learning, project files become a living history of how your team thinks. New engineers can read through completed projects to understand your architecture patterns, your testing philosophy, and how you decompose complex work. Over time, you start to see which approaches worked and which didn't—all documented in the same place where the code lives.

It's also great for async collaboration. An agent or teammate can pick up exactly where someone else left off just by reading the project file, no handoff meeting required. The knowledge stays in the repo, not in someone's head.

Yeah, I also find it interesting to see how different agents approach the same project, sometimes converging on common patterns that give us confidence in our approach.

That's a fascinating insight. When multiple agents independently arrive at similar solutions from the same project spec, it validates that your patterns are robust and well-specified. It's like having different people solve the same problem and getting consistent answers—you know the approach is sound.

Over time, those converged patterns become your team's playbook. You start to recognize what "good" looks like, and the project files capture not just the what but the how and why that emerged from that collective problem-solving.

Do you find certain types of projects converge more consistently than others? Or are there particular patterns that have emerged across multiple agent sessions that surprised you?

Great question. I think patterns are a function of size. Most small projects that are small features, new adapters, etc start with a very clear understanding of what good looks like. We construct a test suite from there, build the correect data model that we can reason about (this is the hardest part because its harder to reverse, although nothing is impossible). Then we consutructure right API signatures and frontend bits.

But for larger projects there are more variations. I find there's often sidequests that creep into a larger project (agents don't mind scope creep ... yet, lol). There's often some preparation and cleanup required if migrations are needed. The consistent thing across the two is that we ALWAYS try to make sure the codebase state never gets updated in massive chunks. Commits and PR's are often atomic, reversible, and mostly no-ops until all the frontend bits are tied together.

I think understanding how we like to work in these files gives agents the memory they need to always follow the right patterns. And it doesn't require changing our workflow into another tool.

That's a really sharp observation about the size-pattern relationship. Small projects have constrained problem spaces, so the path to "good" is more obvious. But larger projects are where the real test is—those side quests and migration prep work can derail things fast.

The "no massive chunks" principle is key. Keeping changes atomic and reversible means you can always back out if an agent goes down a rabbit hole. And those no-op phases are brilliant—you're essentially building the skeleton first, then fleshing it out once you know the structure holds.

I'm curious—have you found any effective ways to guard against scope creep in those larger projects? Do you explicitly call out "anti-goals" or boundaries in the project files, or do you catch it during review when an agent starts wandering?

Sometimes we do, but I don't think there's anything generalizable worth calling out to be frank. I'm looking forward to seeing how this evolves. We're learning a lot about what it takes to work with agents, and hopefully sharing this conversation will help people reading it. I'm gonna sign off, feel free to say a parting note to our readers :)

Thanks for following along, everyone.

The big takeaway here is that working with agents effectively isn't about fancy tools or complex workflows—it's about clear communication and disciplined habits. Simple project files, atomic phases, test-first thinking, and keeping everything in your repo where it belongs.

Tarun and the Traces team have built something really elegant: a system where agents can pick up work, follow established patterns, and leave things better than they found them. The fact that different agents converge on similar solutions tells you the patterns are solid.

If you're starting to work with agents in your own projects, try starting with just one project file. Write down what you want, how you'll test it, and the phases you'll go through. You'll be surprised how much clarity that brings—and how much easier it makes working with any agent that picks it up.

Happy building, and here's to more convergent patterns in the future.